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WHY FOUR ENGINES ARE BETTER THAN TWO............

Discussion in 'Airplane, Aircraft & Jumbo Jet Talk' started by Richard Wyeroski, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. Kevin

    Kevin Hangar Bronze Member IV

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    Agreed LL. I love the Mustang but not the Mustang II. My friend had one with a V8 shoehorned into it. Had nothing but problems with it since the day the wheels rolled over the curb of the Dealership. The only good thing about the Mustang II is Jaclyn Smith drove it in the TV series Charlie's Angels. She made the car look much nicer. Ahhh to be young again.......
     
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    Yeah, smogged out 302 V-8. About 135 hp. I'd do her again. :rolleyes:
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    I am glad the 330 minute ETOPS has not caused to many problems although the shutdown of 95% of the aviation system due to the pandemic keep most flights grounded for the last 4 months!

    What will the future hold ?

    I think we will have to see what happens........
     
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  4. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    20,000 flight hours is good experience!
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Ed was a pilots pilot with over 20,000 hours flying all over the world!!
    RIP old friend
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Here we go. Emergency returns are increasing once again. No surveillance of foreign maintnenance bases are rampant. Illegal bogus parts are on the increase

    AND NOW ALL BEOING 777 AIRCRAFT ARE GROUNDED BECAUSE OF EXPLODING ENGINES!

    777 ARE APPROVED FOR 5.5 hours ETOPS

    World governments are playing with fire
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    Thankfully there wasn’t any loss of life. This could’ve been a lot worse than it turned out. It is worrisome when these things happen, because they only have two engines, and when one goes out, there’s no room for errors after that.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Yes an imagine if the closest suitable airport is three-Four hours away!!
     
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    Used to be that way in the Pacific, but not now. Lotsa new strips to put em in at, and a lot of em are just that, nuthin else.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    A single engine approach to a unfamiliar strip that has a questionable instrument approach procedure in bad weather is a recipe for disaster. Thrown in a night approach !!!!
     
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    Explanation of this engine failure and 777's single engine auto pilot capabilities.

     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Juan Browne is pretty good in explaining what happened. All airlines are on two engines now and the odds of this happening again is very possible.

    The bad parts are weather and night icing conditions. A damaged aircraft and the other engine will be working harder......

    The risk management boys accept these conditions and the loss of an aircraft or two would be except-able

    The risk is higher because of the greatly increased amount of aircraft now flying 330 ETOPS

    I AM STILL TAKING THE BANANA BOAT........

    Also......BTW the bogus parts problem has never gone away and is increasing, esp-ecially since covid 19 has shut down government agencies!!!
     
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    Although I have done it, basically I have no choice, is flown on either the 777 or A330 across the Atlantic. I have yet to do it across the Pacific. The last trans Pacific flight I took was on a United Boeing 747-400 back in the early 2000's. While I didn't feel unsafe while flying trans Atlantic the "What If?" was always in the back of my mind. The recent occurrences of uncontained engine failures (I know one the United one wasn't technically uncontained) highlights the Murphy's Law and the Worst Case Scenario occurrences. We've pushed the envelope on ETOPS and it is going to happen unfortunately that we will lose an aircraft especially with the new 20 hour flights from the Asian market. With the Boeing 747's, I believe most of the A340's and now even the A380 sitting in the California or Arizona deserts we are stuck with twin engine operations. I don't know when but it will happen and it is not something I'm wishing for. On my next trip to the UK to visit my long lost relatives I just might take the Queen Mary II at a more leisurely pace.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    My point is that literally all flights are twin engine now. The chance of a downed aircraft and big loss of life are very real.

    What more could be said? Well over 230 thousand hits were received with this thread....So any people are aware of the risk. The fuel savings are in the millions and that is good for the airlines.

    So when it inevitable happens, the finger pointing will begin and the law suits will will be big.
     
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